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Never-again jobs

May 14, 2012

We’ve all done jobs we vowed we’d never do again. Maybe the work was too tedious, or the boss too appalling or the workplace too grim. Top of my never-again job list was washing up huge trays of congealed chicken fat (grim workplace), closely followed by a particular social work job (appalling boss). But I think a bad job can be a positive career experience as we can learn as much from these jobs when making future career plans as we can from the jobs that have closely matched our skills, values and interests.

In this series I ask a range of people to tell me about their own never-again jobs, what they learned from them, and how the jobs fitted into their career pathway.

We’d love to hear from you about your never-again jobs and what you learned.

Ivan, 34

What was your first job?

Shelf and trolley boy at Courtney New World, Richmond, every Monday and Wednesday after school and all day on Sunday. I was pretty much an all-round hand, but my main role involved throwing rotten fruit at my friends at smoko.

What is your current job?

Senior Advisor Pasifika. I am responsible for leading improved careers outcomes for Pacific people in New Zealand.

What have you done between your first and current jobs?

  • Asparagus picker (two summers of misery while at school)
  • Freezing worker (two months)
  • Cement worker (one month)
  • Car salesman (three months)
  • Sky TV salesman (three months)
  • Rugby development assistant (18 months)
  • Youth worker (one year)
  • Apprentice glacier (one year)
  • Apple picker (one summer of misery during study)
  • Bread delivery van driver (three years weekends while studying)
  • Kapahaka tutor at three schools (three years while in study after class)
  • Student Job Search (one summer while studying)
  • Courier van driver (one summer while studying)
  • Probation officer (six months)
  • Employment coordinator (two years)
  • Career consultant (three years)
  • Pasifika coordinator (three years)
  • Practice advisor (two years)

Qualifications

  • Diploma in Business (first six months)
  • Certificate in Social Sciences
  • Diploma in Social Work
  • Bachelor in Social Sciences
  • Currently completing Masters in Indigenous Studies
  • And – most importantly – a six-week Spanish night class

Which job/s did you really enjoy?

  • Courier van driving – rolling around Nelson, listening to the radio, sunglasses on and talking to lots of people. A very cool job.
  • Kapahaka tutor – this job led to my passion with working with and for young people, particularly Māori and Pasifika.

Which was your never-again job/s?

Picking asparagus and apples – I just wasn’t any good at it, and I spent most of my time throwing fruit at my mates.

What have you learned from those jobs or a job you didn’t enjoy?

When I was a freezing worker I was very ambitious, like I am now! In the freezing works the supervisors wore blue hats, and to me that was a sign of authority and meant that those guys had ‘made it’.

Pae Asamoa was an old Pacific Island gentleman who had worked in the freezing works industry for over 20 years.  He was someone who I respected, and of course grew to be close to as a work mate given his ethnicity.  Two months into the job he asked me at smoko, “What do you wanna do with your life boy?” I explained with great enthusiasm, “I want to be a blue hatter, Pae.”

Pae leaned over, grabbed me by my blood-stained overalls and whispered in a stern voice, “If I come to work one day and you are walking around with a blue hat on, I’m gonna punch you in the face! You are better than this boy, now piss off.”  I went off in a huff.

Four months later, on a Thursday, Pae died.

The following Monday I left my job at the freezing works and started to look at my potential – the potential Pae had been able to see well before I had.  Pae was my first careers advisor.

The lengths you’ll go to in order to land a job

May 10, 2012

Pintrest is the hot new thing in social media, but I have yet to see any really useful uses of it – besides home decor scrapbooking, that is. However, there are others who feel differently about Pintrest, like Jeanne. She really really wants to work there – so she put together a Pintrest page all about it. What a clever way to show that she knows her way around the product! So far she hasn’t had any success yet, but you can follow her results on Tumblr.

What’s the most creative thing you’ve ever done to get a job?

For myself, I was very keen to get a job in a web agency, so I established a tenpin bowling league, where a team from the blog I worked on for fun competed against teams put forward by a bunch of different web agencies from around Wellington. It was a lot of fun, and I met some great people. I didn’t get any immediate job offers, but I did make the connections that helped me a couple of years later when one of those agencies was hiring. Having socialised with many of the staff already, I was in a great position to understand the company mindset, and know it was a good place to work. When I got the job, I found out one of the things that had helped me was that I made myself stand out with my social skills.

Of course, not all job markets are as tightly knit as the web industry in Wellington, so we want to hear stories about the other ways you’ve helped yourself get ahead!

Bright Star

April 26, 2012

Two things have happened recently that are linked.  One very small and insignificant and the other momentous, and a great loss to New Zealand.  First, the small thing.  We were asked,  via this blog, “will straight As get me a job?”.  The other: at at his home on Saturday, 24 March 2012, Sir Paul Callaghan died.

Sir Paul was a great scientist.  But he was always more than that.  To quote his colleague, scientist and blogger Shaun Hendy in a tribute that says it all:

“Sir Paul Callaghan was arguably the greatest scientist ever to ply his trade in New Zealand. He led the world in his chosen field of science. He led a team of almost three hundred scientists who changed the way New Zealanders do science. He led the thinking behind the science and innovation policies that are embraced today by the major parties in New Zealand politics.”

Note a word that gets repeated : ‘Led….”.  And that’s what makes people like Sir Paul Callaghan exceptional.  Leaders like that are:

Prepared to blow things up

They take risks, experiment, and in the process have some fun. Sir Paul himself had said in an interview shortly before he died

 I was a naughty, exuberant, outspoken, troublesome teenager.

An inventor from an early age, he took great pleasure in blowing up rocks with dynamite and got into some trouble as a consequence.  The key is that he learned from his early experiences.  He also built his own radios from early on.

Prepared to set out in a new direction

To quote poet Allen Curnow:

Simply by sailing in a new direction
You could enlarge the world…

Two significant new directions things that Paul Callaghan led:  a change in the way scientists worked together and setting up a commercial venture, Magritek, that commercialised the Nuclear Magnetic Resonance (NMR) technologies that he and his collegues had developed.  It is important to stick to your knitting but not be defined by only by that knitting.  For example, Shaun Hendey writing and speaking about NZ economy, technology and productivity.  Shaun is completeing a book that he and Sir Paul co-authored: The New Zealand Paradox .  Shaun described it in his recent interview with Brian Crump on Radio New Zealand National as “physicists talking about ecomomics”.

Practical and academic

That a completely non-technical, artsy orientated brain like mine is fascinated by, and wants you to read about Nuclear Magnetic Resonance (NMR) is testament to Sir Paul’s talent as a science communicator. I’ll leave it up to you to find out the connection between NMR and mozarella cheese.

His impressive academic track record is a testament to an academic framework that allows questioning, exploration and enquiry have enquiring minds -while also finding  amazingly practical and commercially succesful applications for what look like arcane avenues of research.  You could argue that if tertiary institutes are encouraged to foster the desire to learn how to learn and learn for the sake of learning in others, leaders of his calibre will continue to rise to the surface.

Stargazers

That can mean stargazing literally and figuratively. It’s about vision, dreaming dreams, watching the stars….and on the other hand be like the the early explorers and use the stars to make precise predictions and accutrate forecasts – ways in which we might change the way we do things . Sir Paul had a passion for the Transit of Venus   the astonomical event and its significance.  This is complicated, but stay with me;

On June 6 2012 the second transit of Venus of this century will occur, the first having taken place on June 8 2004.  Unlike the 2004 transit, which happened during the New Zealand night, the 2012 passage of Venus across the face of the Sun will occur during the New Zealand daytime, and be visible. Transits of Venus are rare and predictable astronomical events, with pairs of transits eight years apart separated by long gaps of 121.5 years and 105.5 years…….Before 2004, the last pair of transits was in 1874 and 1882, and before that in 1761 and 1769.  It was the second, 1769 transit that brought James Cook to Tahiti, and subsequently to New Zealand.

What’s amazing is that it’s a rare and beautiful thing – where science, art collide.  And that’s the space where Sir Paul loved to work in and led others.

A forum marking the  Transit of Venus will still go ahead, 5-8 June 2012 in Gisborne, marking the place where the phenomenon will first be seen.  And this is interesting for us in the business of careers: the forum ”while optimistic and forward looking, will be grounded in a realistic assessment by scientists of our current condition and risks in respect of our land, sea, water, biodiversity, human capacity, and energy sources.” This includes considering how we use our knowledge and grow that economy with that knowledge.

Ecstatic about what they do

From a Sunday Star Times article –  on physics and ecstasy:

At 36, after a successful experiment, he lay awake all night contemplating “the beauty of the atomic nucleus in its dance. People have their religious moments. I’ve never had one of those. This was a scientific moment – and it was pretty cool. Every human being should have one of those in their life”.

So my reply to the question “Will straight A’s get me a job?”.  Well, based “No”.  And “Yes”. And “That’s irrelevant”.  Not really answering the question? Ok, so there is some good research out there about qualifications mattering, but being over-rated.  And obviously demand and supply of qualifications and jobs at the end are a huge influence.  It’s good to keep an eye on current and future labour market trends.

Straight As, if you are a pragmatic, planful, hard-working dreamer, are probably inevitable.

But it’s likely that being a courageous humanitarian makes you shine the brightest.

Digital myth-busting

April 20, 2012

Here at the Careers New Zealand website team, we’re focused on creating great online content that’ll pique up the interest of anyone looking for a job in New Zealand.

When we create content, we’re looking for the largest audience possible to use it – tradespeople from Canterbury, secondary school students in Gisborne, men in Stratford, women in Gore, recent graduates in Auckland and the people in our rural heartlands affected by job layoffs and redundancies.

However, time and time again I see myths floating around both social and mainstream media that suggest the vast tentacles of the internet aren’t reaching the demographics that need our information the most. They say the spread of the internet isn’t as prevalent as we’d like to think it is, and that many people do not have access to internet-based services.

The first point to address is around the growth of internet access.  It used to be the case that where telephone cables went, so did the internet. However, the spread of wireless internet access has changed that.  What may have been true six months ago can be completely wrong now, such is the pace at which technology advances. While terrestrial cables still dominate internet service providing, wireless internet access through mobile phones is growing exponentially, and revolutionising how people access the web.

Let’s have a look at some of the common myths around internet access in New Zealand.

Myth 1: “Low income areas are disadvantaged when it comes to internet access.”

According to Digital Media New Zealand, the gap between the highest and lowest income brackets for broadband use has halved since 2007.  84% of people in the lowest income bracket now have access to broadband. Yes, in the past lower income groups didn’t have as much access to broadband, but with so much access in schools and libraries across the country, the world wide web is only an friendly inquiry away.

According to an Auckland University of Technology (AUT) survey, of the 14% of people who don’t currently use the internet, 61% of those have asked someone else to make a purchase, send email, or access information for them. This shows just how pervasive the internet is, even for people who don’t use it directly.

Myth 2: “Maori and Pasifika are less likely to have access to broadband connections.”

According to the AUT survey, for Kiwis under the age of 30, rates of access to broadband are very similar for Asian, NZ European, Maori and Pasifika. Anecdotal evidence also suggests that a greater rate of Maori and Pasifika are accessing the internet from mobile devices, which has grown by 20% across all ethnicities between 2007 and 2011.

Myth 3: “Rural areas have very limited access to the internet.”

Broadband access in rural areas has always been a tricky task to negotiate in New Zealand.  The isolation of rural communities and the poor quality of traditional phonelines has meant that broadband access has been slow getting to these areas.  However, the much talked about upgrading of phonelines and rollout of broadband in the early ’00s has finally come around. Broadband access for users in rural areas has increased from 47% in 2007 to 84% in 2011.  Although some of the most remote areas still rely on dial-up connections, broadband connections are widely available through improved phonelines in rural areas. Broadband in schools is very important for the Careers New Zealand website, and the access students have through school resources helps to make up for a the still growing internet presence in rural New Zealand.

Extreme Interviewee’s Revenge

April 16, 2012
woman and beast job interview

Beast of a job interview, by Notions Capital on Flickr

Previously I looked at the cut-throat world of extreme interviewing where employers threw radical, left-field interview questions at unsuspecting applicants. It’s a craze that is taking off in America and like most things it will no doubt filter its way into New Zealand practice in the not too distant future.

Gathering valuable information

But an interview isn’t just a one-way street. It’s not just about the employer bombarding the interviewee with a series of questions in an attempt to understand their personality or see how they react in certain situations. A good interview is also an opportunity for the candidate to gather some valuable information about their prospective employer, so they can make a good decision about whether the work place is right for them.

Your chance to ask questions

In the world of the situational interview that is currently common in New Zealand, you might gather information about the job by asking something constructive like, “Who will I be directly reporting to in this role?” (Questions like “When can I take my first holiday?” or “What time do I get lunch?” won’t help you to nail the job.)

But in the extreme interview world, where the employer asks radical questions designed to reveal your creativity and personality, what about gathering information about the job by using the same technique? Why not fight fire with fire and put the employer on the spot? See how creative they are and learn a bit about their personality. Read more…

My friends’ careers: the jeweller

April 11, 2012

picture of kim

Sometimes I envy my friends’ careers, so I thought I’d talk to them about how they got to where they are now. Today I talk to Kim Laurenson, who sells jewellery online.

1. What do you do?
I run Cupcakes and Mace – a laser cut jewellery business , I blog, and I am a temporary administrator and customer service rep. Read more…

My friends’ careers: the programmer

April 3, 2012

Brenda Wallace picture by Cycada on FlickrSometimes I envy my friends’ careers, so I thought I’d talk to them about how they got to where they are now. Today I talk to Brenda Wallace, an amazing woman in technology, who works as a programmer.

1.  What do you do?

I’m a Production Engineer at Weta Digital in Wellington. Read more…

What dinosaur are you, and other difficult questions

March 28, 2012
Dinosaur Firefighter by Dimmerswitch on Flickr

Dinosaur Firefighter by Dimmerswitch on Flickr

“Kia Ora Daniel. Good to meet you, please take a seat. I’d like to introduce you to Blair and Christine who will be interviewing you today for the Career Consultant position.”

Blair: “Hello Daniel. We want to start things off with a nice easy question.”

Christine: “If you were a dinosaur what kind of dinosaur would you be?”

Daniel: “Umm, what are you talking about?”

Apparently this kind of interview question is all the rage in America. Just like extreme sports skateboarding and snowplough racing, this is extreme interviewing. The idea is to shock, stun or amaze candidates into letting their real personalities come through. To take the bland and predictable world of interviews to the next level.

At Careers New Zealand we do a lot of work coaching people on how to respond to the type of situational interview questions they are likely to get in New Zealand. Questions such as, “Can you tell me about a time you had to deal with a difficult client?” That type of question.

What if we went the American way? Could interviews that ask you to consider what kind of biscuit best reflects your personality actually become part of the job hunting process that is fun, something to look forward to?

So for the first ever piece of New Zealand extreme interview research I’ll throw myself in the hot seat, and answer the questions to try and reveal my real personality traits. Read more…

My friends’ careers: the café owner

March 26, 2012

Jospeh in MontereySometimes I envy my friends’ careers, so I thought I’d talk to them about how they got to where they are now. Today I talk to Joseph Slater, who works in hospitality and owns his own businesses.

1.     What do you do?

I own and run Monterey, Six Barrel Soda co. and Kreuzberg Summer Café with my pal Mike. Read more…

Where are the women in tech?

March 22, 2012

Paul Brislen of the Telecommunications Users Association of New Zealand wrote a thought-provoking blog post the other day about the shortage of women in technology.

…Why should you care? Well, in case you hadn’t noticed, it’s hard to find staff in the broader ICT field. It starts at tertiary level where the universities and colleges of New Zealand are failing to attract their full number of candidates and it runs through to most large companies where the IT team is generally more than 70 per cent male and that’s being generous.

All too often I’ve been to conferences (even ones organised by TUANZ) and seen two or three women and that’s it. Generally, they’re the PR folk who organised the event in the first place. Women simply aren’t anywhere near the level of staff you’d expect if all things were equal.

I’ve been to those conferences too – generally though in my roles doing communications for technology companies, or the government. Being in a minority isn’t a lot of fun. I’ve got two anecdotes that may contribute to the larger picture.

  • At an Open Government bar camp last year, in which we discussed ways to do more with data that is harvested by government agencies, the organiser suggested that if you were struggling with some of the technical issues raised, you should find someone with a beard to explain it to you. I called him out for that, and he apologised, but it was a unwelcome reminder that women aren’t expected to be technical.
  • Recently a Boston API  Jam (an informal conference) was organised, and was listed with the perks of attending including being brought beer by women. Luckily, many people were quick to jump on this sexist ‘brogrammer’ attitude, and sponsors pulled out, leading to a pretty comprehensive apology from the organisers  that acknowledged the difficulties of a male-dominated tech industry.

There are many, many more examples of negative experiences women in tech have had, but it gets kind of depressing to list them. Instead, here’s two bright points that I think suggest the situation can improve.

  • Tech people get a lot of tshirts, from vendors, from conferences, from all kinds of things. These tshirts are normally boxy, and come in men’s sizes only. Webstock, a yearly web conference in Wellington, offers its tshirts in women’s cuts and sizes as well. This is a very clear acknowledgement that there are women in the industry. I have a friend Brenda who’s a brilliant programmer, and goes to a lot of tech events which are mainly male, so at Webstock  she was very excited that there was actually a queue in the women’s bathroom.
  • In Wellington, and in other cities around the world, there are a series of events called Geek Girl Dinners, where women in tech speak about their careers, their passions and their hobbies. These dinners are subsidised thanks to sponsorship, and student tickets are generally around $5. It’s a great way to find role models and inspiration.

How does this relate to us here at Careers New Zealand?

Obviously, we want to help people be aware of what job options they have, and what training they will need to get into those jobs. We don’t have a mandate as such to try to get more women into technology, but that doesn’t mean we can’t work towards that goal anyway. IT jobs are often well-paid, so more women in tech roles would help redress the gender pay gap in New Zealand. So what should we do?

Paul has some suggestions.

If we are to encourage half the population to take our industry seriously as a career choice, we need to make it an industry that is enticing, that is interesting, that is even grudgingly accepting that women can and should be a part of the community and we have to start at the very basic level…
…. But we need to encourage women into this industry and that means starting well before the job interview. That means starting before they’ve made the choice at tertiary level – that means going into high schools and making sure the girls who are yet to decide on their future are encouraged and welcomed into the IT world.

We need to do a better job, as an industry, at selling ourselves to these kids. We need to go in to schools and tell them about the cool stuff we do. We need to tell them about designing games, about travelling the world, about getting paid well above the average wage. We need to talk to the kids and encourage them to join in, and we need to talk to everyone who doesn’t belong to the computer club, or who spends their lunchtime at a terminal in the lab. We need to preach to the unconvinced, to the unconverted and to the boys and girls who are able to do maths, who get science and critical thinking and we need to get them to consider their options.

That includes the girls, and if that means we need to make a change to the culture of this industry then we absolutely have to make that change, because excluding half the population simply isn’t acceptable.

That’s some good advice. Now to act on it!